216 – The Black Flame Society Podcast with Ally and Wil – Big Seance

Jul 17, 2022 | 0 comments


Are you as passionate about Hocus Pocus as Ally and Wil of The Black Flame Society Podcast? Join Patrick and listen in as they discuss their favorite moments, characters, meeting cast members, Hocus Pocus tattoos, the magic of getting the opportunity to interview producer and creator David Kirshner, and Halloween nostalgia! Share in the excitement for the release of Hocus Pocus 2 with the return of Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kathy Najimy, and Doug Jones! Plus the terrifying hauntings that Wil experienced growing up! 


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In this episode:

Episode Teaser :00

Intro :44

Bios for Ally of @HocusPocusCollector and Wil of @SpookyWil! 1:24

The story of how Ally and Wil joined forces to produce and co-host the popular Black Flame Society Podcast2:31

Halloween culture, merchandise, and trick-or-treating in the US vs. UK. 6:25

How Hocus Pocus came into Ally and Wil’s lives! Plus being terrified of Billy Butcherson! 9:06

The magic of nostalgia! And Patrick crushed hard on Max Dennison, played by Omri Katz. 11:14

Ally has had the fortune of meeting most of the cast of Hocus Pocus, including Doug Jones (Billy Butcherson), Omri Katz (Max Dennison), Vinessa Shaw (Allison), Jason Marsden (Voice of Binx), Larry Bagby (Ice), Tobias Jelinek (Jay), and Kathy Najimy (Mary Sanderson). 13:39

Bette Midler, Kathy Najimy, Sarah Jessica Parker, and Doug Jones are coming back for Hocus Pocus 214:21

Ally’s interviews of Hocus Pocus cast members15:24

What do Wil and Ally’s closest friends think about their nerdy passions? 15:37

This episode of the Big Seance is brought to you by Jim Harold’s Campfire! Tune in for true and fascinating stories as told by ordinary people who’ve had extraordinary experiences. Find it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to The Big Seance. 20:35

The magic of having the opportunity to interview producer and creator of Hocus Pocus and Hocus Pocus 2, David Kirschner! 22:51

Ally has an “I shall always be with you” tattoo. Those moments in Hocus Pocus that tug on our heartstrings the most, plus the Come Little Children song, and the inspiration for the last scene in the film! 28:08

This is the time in the summer that Hocus Pocus was released in theaters in 1993! 30:28

Patrick tears up when Thackery Binx, as a cat, circles his father’s feet as he shoos him away. 31:16

Funniest moments in Hocus Pocus32:14

Jay and Ice moments and favorite lines! 34:00

Challenging Ally and Wil with a Whose Line Is It? game! 35:20

The fat of a hangman, the black flame candle, and the actual Book that David Kirschner created! 38:31

Ally and Wil’s most treasured Halloween and Hocus Pocus possessions! 40:40

The Sanderson sisters’ cottage in the original film and suspicions about what appears to be the sisters’ cottage in Hocus Pocus 242:21

Lights, Camera, Witchcraft: A Critical History of Witches in American Film and Television by Heather Greene has interesting commentary about the time period that Hocus Pocus was coming out of when it was filmed, and the themes that are present. PLUS the Salem Witch Trials. 43:18

Wil grew up having some intense paranormal experiences! 48:51

Ally’s spirit visitation as a child, and other friendly ghosts. 54:35

Final thoughts and what’s coming up for Ally and Wil and the Black Flame Society Podcast! 56:27

A special THANK YOU to Patreon supporters at the Super Paranerd and Parlor Guest level! 59:22 

Outro 1:01:31

Easter egg 1:02:51


For More on Ally & Will and The Black Flame Society Podcast


Facebook: @TheBlackFlameSocietyPodcast

Instagram: @TheBlackFlameSocietyPodcast



Facebook: @HocusPocusCollector

Instagram: @HocusPocusCollector

Twitter: @HoPoCollector

TikTok: @HocusPocusCollector




Facebook: @SpookyWil

Instagram: @SpookyWil

TikTok: @SpookyWil


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