212 – Pam Hupp and Countdown to Murder with Rebecca F. Pittman – Big Seance

May 14, 2022 | 0 comments


Rebecca F. Pittman is the author of Countdown to Murder: Pam Hupp. Ripped from the headlines, this case has spawned multiple podcasts, including Dateline NBC's most-popular podcast to date: The Thing About Pam, which also inspired the NBC mini-series starring Renee Zellweger. Pam Hupp is in prison for the murder of Louis Gumpenberger and is currently going to trial for the murder of Betsy Faria, where Prosecuting Attorney Mike Wood will be seeking the Death Penalty.


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Episode Teaser :00

Intro :58

Rebecca F. Pittman is a bestselling author. Her History and Haunting series of non-fiction books have been spotlighted on numerous television, radio, and podcast programs. Based on the Top-10 Most-Haunted Venues in the world, the books offer a comprehensive history of the person, place, or event. It was while writing The History and Haunting of Lizzie Borden that Ms. Pittman found her second calling–that of armchair detective. She was responsible for finding new evidence in the famous 1892 murders in Fall River, Massachusetts. Rebecca created The Lizzie Borden Paranormal Card Game as a companion to the book. It's a rummy-style card game featuring crime scene photos, evidence, suspects, alibis, and a few paranormal twists. It's available on her website at rebeccafpittmanbooks.com, along with her portfolio of books. 1:40

Book description for Countdown to Murder: Pam Hupp2:53

The True Crime genre has become extremely popular. Are True Crime and the Paranormal related? 7:15

This case is local for Patrick, and there are so many connections that he comes across. 9:21

Rebecca’s thoughts on the NBC mini-series starring Renee Zellweger as Pam Hupp. 11:50

What is it about this story that led to an almost comic portrayal of Pam Hupp? 14:32

“She thought she was smarter than everybody.” 16:02

“He got the line wrong.” Russ Faria gets acquitted and Pam gets creative. Louis Gumpenberger and the 9-1-1 call. 19:08

More on the 9-1-1 call. And what was the carpet square about? 22:36

“We’re coming for Pam.” 24:56

“I owe it all to Patty.” The story of how Rebecca learned about the Pam Hupp case. 26:24

Rebecca interviewed many of the individuals involved in the case, including the family of murder victims. Patrick asks her about the work and planning it took to chronicle this story. 27:24

This episode of the Big Seance is brought to you by Jim Harold’s Campfire! Tune in for true and fascinating stories as told by ordinary people who’ve had extraordinary experiences. Find it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to The Big Seance. 30:49

Betsy Faria’s daughters and the railroading of Russ Faria. 33:22

Leah Askey, the prosecuting attorney for the botched first trial of Russ Faria. 36:06

Leah Askey and the judge were friends. They have both since been let go. The judge was later found guilty of mismanagement. 39:05

Serial killers and personality disorders. 40:48

Pam Hupp did not have great relationships with women. 44:25

“Someone died every time she ran out of money.” 45:07

Pam’s ex-husband and his new wife still live in the home where Louis Gumpenberger was murdered. 46:20

Rebecca is currently researching Pam’s earlier years in Florida, and there are rumors that there may be other victims out there. 48:01

More on the victims and their families. 49:39

Why are we so fascinated by serial killers and their crimes? 52:18

Final thoughts from Rebecca F. Pittman. 54:34

A special THANK YOU to Patreon supporters at the Super Paranerd and Parlor Guest level! 56:48

Outro 59:03

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