Below is a guest post by medium, Marilyn Painter, that I am excited to present to you. See my last post for an introduction. Also, I encourage you to check out her Complete Data Comparison Grids linked in the post. Enjoy!
Medium, Marilyn Painter, during our second séance.
The primary reason why most conduct a séance is to receive physical concrete evidence that spirit exists, is with us, and can communicate to us. Usually we hope to hear an audible voice, an out of the ordinary knock or sound, see an object move, or an apparition. However, when we have predetermined expectations or limitations on what we would consider evidence, we could miss a profound display of evidence that is grander than any of our conceptions.
On Saturday, September 29, 2012, Patrick Keller, founder of Missouri Spirit Seekers Paranormal Investigators, a male and female sitter, and me conducted a séance at Ahtah Sanctuary Holistic Center. During this séance, one at a time, we called upon the Divine Consciousness of Humanity, divine spirit of Mahatma Gandhi, and finally the Angelic Realm. Our intention was; if it is in divine will, to bring forth, here and now, physical evidence of their existence and any messages they felt beneficial.
As I set to organize my thoughts to write this post, I was guided by spirit to recall the last message received that came from communications in the Angelic Realm at this Séance, “But it kept saying and showing me the eye is very important… “to see through” … I couldn’t get it all. There’s something very strong about the eye and the deep seat of the soul.” At the time of the Séance, I didn’t understand the message “to see through/eye/deep seat of the soul”. But I get it now!!! Bypass the physical eye for evidence that spirit exists, is with us, and can communicate with us. Enter into the spiritual eye of the soul. What I know through experience, spirit communicates energetically in frequencies. The spiritual eye of the soul entails clairvoyance, claircognizance, clairaudience, clairsentience etc.
When I do soul readings for people or readings for those who want to hear from a loved one in spirit, most all are hoping there is some information revealed about them or the loved one that they know and I couldn’t know for evidence that spirit is communicating to them through me. Validation of a reality or experience grows solid when more than one has a similar knowing, reality or experience. Therefore, validation of spirit communication during Séance 2 is stronger if two or more have related experiences during communication efforts. In keeping with the guidance of the Angelic Realm, I bypassed physical evidence and looked into similarities in Spiritual Eye of the Soul experiences.
A video still from our second séance.
Patrick Keller sent me a transcript of the audio recordings from Séance 2. I compared all of the sitters’ descriptions of their sensory experiences during all three communications of Séance 2. Even though the mediumship skill levels of 3 out of the 4 sitters ranged from none to minimal experience, there was evidence of two or more related experiences during all 3 communication efforts, especially during communications with Mahatma Gandhi.
The following are excerpts from the Séance 2 transcript that demonstrate similar knowing and experiences among the sitters during Séance 2 communication efforts. Click for: Complete Data Comparison Grids
Collective Human Consciousness
Marilyn: “When the Spirit Box was turned on, Marilyn said she continued to hear it (high pitched frequency) more amplified and it was longer strands, almost like Morse code or a signal.”
*(Note: Marilyn can hear the sounds of energy with her physical hearing mechanisms.)
Sitter 2: “Feeling a surge of energy when the Spirit Box was turned on.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Marilyn: “His energy very, very strong and I see him as a white light. Beautiful, beautiful white light… pure… beautiful.”
“The energy was so big, a bright white light”
Patrick: “Mentioned in a vision, he was looking up to see the bright sky while under water.”
Marilyn: “and then it became like a full moon. Then she felt night time.”
Patrick: “At one point I was seeing faces… fading in from the dark… face after face, seeing all of the features.”
Sitter 1: “Feeling like it got darker or feeling darkness.”
Sitter 2: “Feeling like it got darker or feeling darkness.”
Marilyn: “Gandhi came to her in human form but then switched to a pure energy form.”
Patrick: “At one point I was seeing faces… fading in from the dark… face after face, seeing all of the features.”
Marilyn: “Reported feeling heavier, specifically in the shoulders.”
Patrick: Mentioned getting tingly and itchy around the throat.
*(tingly with itchy is a heavy type of feeling and the throat is on the same plane as shoulders)
Sitter 1: Reported feeling heavier, specifically in the shoulders.
Marilyn: “I saw flooding and the earth around to where it created islands, so to speak, or separation.”
Patrick: “Mentioned having visions of being underwater (like the ocean… deep greenish aqua color) and looking up to see the bright sky while under water. This was right before Marilyn mentioned flooding.”
Angelic Realm
Marilyn: “Marilyn said a lot of what she was feeling was in the head and the crown. It was good… not a heavy energy.”
Sitter 1: “Said she just experienced a lighter feeling.”
Marilyn: “I saw that white light, and a little bit of the blue… it was really crystally”
“As I was traveling and flying really quickly toward this bright white light…”
Sitter 1: “Said they were seeing white light come over here and then it seemed like it was kind of illuminating”
“It illuminated… like it was starting to spread out.”
Sony PX-720 Digital Audio Recorder (placed behind Marilyn’s chair)
Sony PX-820 Digital Audio Recorder (placed on the center table)
“From 1:47:55 – 1:48:13 in PX-820, I (Patrick) feel as if I hear several messages requesting us to “leave”, “leave, please”, or “leave us.” “I can possibly hear some “leaves” in the next rotation as well.”
1:48:46 in PX-820, “(Patrick) something interesting that I can’t make out. Almost sounds like “Rachel” to me. (Marilyn, in response to Patrick’s notes in his transcript) Could it be, “Raphael”, as in Arch Angel Raphael, “Patron of Travelers” who helps with inward spiritual journeys, assisting in searches for truth and guidance?)
Marilyn: “It was a long journey, traveling to their place.”
“Had to travel quite far to get to them. The other ones; they just kind of came here. So I felt like I traveled to where they were at.”
“Then all of a sudden I saw this white circle… it was like I was flying through the clouds and it was kind of powder blue like I was a bird… like with angel wings. And it (possibly archangel Raphael) was taking me there.”
1:47:55 – 1:48:13 in PX-820, (Patrick) “I could also interpret one of them as a “stay”.”
Patrick: “Said he was not as focused this time around.”
Sitter 2: No input; tired perhaps.
(This may be why spirit communicated “stay”. They were not in the energy to “leave/travel”.)
**The following physical data was obtained and noted in the transcripts by Patrick Keller:
During the Mahatma Gandhi portion of the Séance
56:35 in PX-720, 56:59 in PX-820 – Some kind of bell or chime or clang sound in the background. Much louder in the PX-720.
1:00:47 in PX-720, 1:01:11 in PX-820 – Same bell/chime/clang sound. And again, it was picked up louder in the PX-720.
1:13:38 in PX-720, Sounds like possibly the quick squeal of the **Trifield Meter. Not picked up in the PX-820. (Trifield was right next to the PX-820)
Trifield Meter (left) and Mel Meter (right) with temperature and EMF readings.
**Patrick here… since this transcript and analysis of the audio was typed up, I have completed all video analysis. The camcorder focused on the Trifield meter showed that there were never any readings, and the squeal/alarm never sounded. It is unclear what was making this noise.
1:15:15 in PX-720, Another squeal of the Trifield meter? Not picked up in the PX-820. (Trifield was right next to the PX-820)
1:19:00 in PX-720, Another one again? Not picked up in the PX-820. (Trifield was right next to the PX-820)
1:22:12 in PX-720, Another squeal of the Trifield meter? Not picked up in the PX-820. (Trifield was right next to the PX-820)
End of Angelic Realm portion of the Séance
1:52:47 in PX-720, 1:53:11 in PX-820 – More Trifield sounding noise. Could these noises possibly be a squeak of Marilyn’s chair since the recorder is right behind it? I can hear it softly in the distance in the PX-820. But the Trifield was right next to the PX-820 so I know that’s not what it was.
I (Marilyn) don’t believe the quick squeal noise came from my chair. The chair I was in is a wing-back chair of solid wood and very fluffy cushion. I have never heard it squeak. If it was from the squeak of my chair, I then wonder why my chair squeaked every less than 5 minutes only during the Mahatma Gandhi portion of the Séance (except a final squeak right as we concluded the Séance but different in that both PX-720 and PX-820 picked it up)?
When I am in a trance, conducting mediumship, I feel Spirit communication energy/ frequency come through my back at the spine and also the back top of my head like a current. The PX-720 was on a table closely and directly behind my back where this energy comes through. The squeal noise could be the sound of this energy coming through. When the sound was picked up in both PX-720 and PX-820 at the conclusion of the Angelic Realm communications, the PX-820 could have picked up the sound of this spiritual energy because the communication energy was quite expanded at the time, and not during communications of Angelic Realm because my spirit left the room and traveled there and received communications there.
Overall, I am ecstatic with the results and experience of this Séance. Thank you Patrick Keller and the Missouri Spirit Seekers Paranormal Investigators for this amazing opportunity.
See through the physical eye and experience with the Eye of the Soul.
Marilyn Painter
Ahtah Sanctuary Holistic Center
www.ahtahsanctuary.com
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“Spiritual” and “Religious”…
Here are a few questions to ponder today.
Are you “religious” or “spiritual”?
Do they have to be different? Are you both? Neither?
Next question.
How did your upbringing or early life experience lead you to where you are now and how you classify yourself?
If you’re wondering what brought this on, bear with me and I’ll attempt to explain. Sometimes I get going on these things and I wonder if I’m even being coherent. In recent weeks I’ve gotten a few comments here, mostly polite, from people who I would consider “religious”. For the most part, these comments have shared concerns that spirit communication is from the Devil or evil. I apparently need to find God… which is weird, because I feel like I have a pretty close relationship with him, actually. I have no intention of censoring these comments, providing they stay respectful. And just to be clear, I have comments set to be approved mainly due to the fact that I have students out there. They’re free to read, but they don’t need to comment. 🙂
In one of the comments, the reader discussed how she was once into “the occult” (a term that is SO misunderstood and is often confused with “cult”), but now she’s Christian. It was suggested that I repent and “seek God, rather than demonic spirits.”
Well… I realize it is dangerous to go here, but I’m going to. As soon as I read the comment discussed above, I couldn’t help but think about how my path has been the opposite of hers. And, I suppose, we both would see each others paths as backwards. I grew up and spent a LOT of time in a Southern Baptist Church. My sister and I were the third generation of our family to go to this church. By the time I was in high school, I was a staff musician and was getting some great experience. But it was also around this time that I learned some disappointing things that were going on in the congregation. Not only that, but nationally there was a lot of controversy going on with the Southern Baptist Convention spreading and teaching hate. Ellen Degeneres had come out of the closet and so of course they boycotted everything having to do with ABC and Disney (their parent company). Ring a bell? People can be so very hateful in the name of God… and they’ll follow anyone who refers to themselves as a “pastor” or “preacher”. So I think my family determined that there was more love and acceptance at home than in the church. But I decided to stay until I left for college, gritting my teeth the whole time… and I made that decision for one reason only… music. In college I worked in two or three different churches as a staff musician and for a year was a director of music. I’ve been known to say that the only thing I got out of these church experiences was music, which has ended up being a huge part of my life, but that’s not exactly true. There were many people who helped raise and support me in my hometown church, people who I have lots of love and respect for. There were many nice people who I worked with in college. But… you can lose a lot of yourself in organized religion. And most definitely, not everything shouted from a church pulpit is good… or even true, for that matter.
Around 5 years ago I began what I refer to as my “spiritual shift”. I am so much closer to God now than I ever was before then… and I don’t regret leaving organized religion. I don’t think anyone is ever truly enlightened… and I definitely have my flaws (oh boy, that’s another blog post), but I’ve certainly come a long way since then. It’s like my eyes are opened now. I can’t imagine going back to a time where I knew nothing about a spirit guide… or meditation… or energy, or the fact that we’re all loved, no matter what and no one is judged! And… I can’t believe there was a time when “ghosts” were just people wearing bedsheets on Halloween. Aren’t we doing our children an injustice by teaching them that there is a physical land up in the sky covered with clouds and angel wings where only some of us go? I remember praying a lot growing up… begging to not go to the fiery place where the red guy with horns would torture you. And if we’re teaching kids that to get them to behave (Jesus on the shelf?), then we have serious issues. To me, closing my mind and going back to a world where dogma is kept alive to keep leaders of churches and religious organizations in power would be a giant leap backwards. I know too much now. And spirit communication? I’ve yet to have a negative experience. Why wouldn’t we want to learn more? (Side note. Check out MOSS’s two investigations [HERE and HERE] of a church that DID want to know more. Cool experience!)
So… I know everyone has their own path. I get that. I know very little about these readers other than their “religious” comments. They very well may be the nicest and sweetest people one could meet. But… how does one respond? Do you smile and just move on? Do you write up a blog post about it? 😉 Am I even being coherent? Am I going to Hell? Care to start a discussion?
Related:
Christians and the Occult (kristinemcguire.com)
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